A Hoochie Trapped in a Feminist’s Body


If I’m being totally honest, I can probably think of many ways that I am hypocritical (for example, I simultaneously hate global warming and love air conditioning) but the one that is niggling most at my conscience is music.

I know, I know, in a world where children are dying in sweat shops & I still buy sandals at Wal-Mart, I choose music to get really worked up about. But here’s my problem – I love music. All kinds of music – my two favorite genres are Punk/Emo, like AFI or My Chemical Romance, and anti-folk like Joshua Radin and Regina Spektor (P.S. Her new album is really good!) . And I cannot get through a workout without it. The worst part of running long races for me isn’t the hills or the heat or the surprise Gatorade on the water table (try throwing that over your head) but the fact that I can’t use my MP3 player. And let’s face it, classes like BodyPump, Hip Hop Hustle and my beloved Turbokick are defined by their great music. Music, I might add, that offers to “fold” me “like a pornography poster” right after rapping a list of sexual positions that would make the Kama Sutra take notes.

That song (that you are now undoubtedly singing in your head, you’re welcome) is “Low” by Flo Rida. It is not some obscure rap song purchased only by pimply, Penthouse-hiding adolescent boys; “Low” hit number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 list. It is played on almost every radio station in the country. And it is all about using a female sex worker (stripper? prostitute?) to fulfill every male sexual fantasy. But hey, “that shorty, she was worth the money.” At least he’s frugal. I know I hate it when I get a dud hooker.

Think that’s the exception? Check out the current Billboard Top 100. Number 2 is the romantic ballad “Best I Ever Had” by Drake that not only uses the F word 6 times in the chorus alone but covers oral sex in such detail that hookers are suing him for disclosing their trade secrets. Lest you think it’s just the men, Lady Gaga’s “Love Game”- a song that cutely name-checks the male anatomy that rhymes with “block” in a description of no-strings-attached sex – is number 6. Next on the list is Pitbull’s “I Know You Want Me”, another ode to anonymous sex that has the distinction of describing sex acts in two languages. I probably don’t need to add that Pitbull is not interested in the nameless “mami” for her intellect or ability to cook a souffle. But who needs talents when you have an “a$$ like a donkey”?

Hypocrite confession time: Pitbull is hands-down my favorite music to workout to. And I speak Spanish so I can’t even claim that I don’t understand what all he’s saying (although frankly the dude is so unsubtle, martians would show up to his concert with condoms). Lady Gaga? Saw her in concert and loved it. Yet, if all you knew about women was what you heard on the top ten you’d think all of us were horny, T&A popping sex toys. We’re either strippers, prostitutes or wanna-be porn stars. We’re bought (cheaply) with drugs, booze, and fancy cars. And all we do with our time is grind on the dance floor until some man throws us over his shoulder and takes us home (or possibly, just to his car).

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Turbo Jennie is in a unique position to comment on my quandry. A middle school health teacher by day, she facilitates the Young Women’s Leadership Forum. By night she teaches TurboKick and Hip Hop Hustle – grooving to the same songs that she dissects with her teen-aged students. Oh, and did I mention she has a minor in Women’s Studies? If anyone could understand my inner conflict it would be her.

Jennie says, “I find myself frequently turning the channel when I find lyrics too offensive and the offensive sh*t that the radio gets away with playing is shocking. A song like Low is pretty tame compared to some of the stuff I hear on the radio. I’ve had to learn to take songs at face value and listen to them strictly for the beat/fun workout tune and that it is. This is an issue that I think is so relevant and one I know would piss me off even more if I watched music videos, which I don’t.”

Other students (victims?) of my totally unrandom polling echoed her sentiments by saying that they usually don’t listen to the lyrics, just the beat. All of them seemed shocked when I repeated the lyrics for them. But then speaking the lyrics sounds a whole lot worse than rapping them. Too bad I can’t rap.

Ms. Misogyny
Tonight’s my hip-hop class. I love it. Even pregnant, I LOVE it. So I’ll be there. Grooving to the beat and trying not to listen to the lyrics. Like Jennie says, “[It] wouldn’t be the same if I popped in Celine Dion or Maroon 5. Besides Justin Timberlake’s only got 4 minutes to save the world! We must help him!!”

So now I have to know – What’s on your iPod? Are you a lyrics or music person? Anyone else suffer from the same inner conflict I do with workout music or do you just stick to musicals and NPR? (Side note: I cannot listen to “Wait, wait, don’t tell me” whilst exercising or I’ll fall off my treadmill laughing.)

PS> Speaking of body image issues – some of the fitosphere’s brightest luminaries (i.e. MizFit, Roni’s Weigh, MamaVision etc.) have launched a new body image website for women called We Are The Real Deal. Definitely check them out, they are one smart group of ladies and they have a lot of good things to say!

49 Comments

  1. I hear you girl, the dirtier the better…it seems the more raunchy the song, the better the beat – hence the better it is to work out to. Ludacris, Missy Elliott, Lil Wayne, Busta Rhymes. I know it's not pc, but if it picks up my pace and makes me move, well then I feel good about it what can I say? There are some things those Lilith Fair ladies just can't do. Sorry, girls.

  2. Guilty! I try to keep the hip hop as clean as possible, but it is not easy- ok its impossible. And I can't make it through a workout without the beat of that type of music. Right now I have Sean Kingston," Fire Burning" as my startup workout song. Totally gets me going.

    In the ultimate irony I used to have Rihanna's "Disterbia" followed by Chris Brown's "Forever" on my playlist. Disterbia Forever, how appropriate.

  3. The beat may be terrific but I have such a powerful memory that the lyrics adhere to my memory like you- know-what on you-know-what which is why I prefer the same music and beat with lyrics spoken in a language i which I'm not swear-word fluent. I have C-mon & Kypski, Ozomati, 17 Hippies, Teapacks, 21:03, 2raumwohnung, Ethnix, Habib Koite, and Dennis Ferrer.

  4. It is seriously ridiculous how disgusting the lyrics are. Thanks for another awesome post and for the link to We are the REAL deal.

  5. Ditto to everything you said! I am sort of embarassed by the music I listen to while working out. I do, however listen to Wait wait while lifting weights. And I have been guilty of laughing out loud on many occasions (today included)!

  6. I have trouble with a lot of the lyrics. They just make me cringe. But then, I'm a 40 year-old, minivan drivin', suburban mom, so I'm SUPPOSED to hate the music that you kids listen to today, right? And long for the music of my youth? Except that was the 80's, and while I don't mind a bit of nostalgia, some of that stuff was crap!
    Anyway, I must admit to loving some songs for the beat. I'm dating myself here, but "Dontcha" by the Pussycat Dolls and "Do Somethin'" by Ms. Spears get me moving.
    But the ones I love the most to work out to are the Black Eyed Peas.

  7. A good friend of mine has a mother that snow-shoes to 50 Cent. And is a feminist legal theory professor. Seriously.

    I personally have huge issues with the way women are portrayed, it puts an insane amount of pressure on young women. Especially those of us that prefer to be valued for what is on the inside. I can guarantee you that the boys that stare at me on the subway are not interested in the fact that I'm in law school, or that I thoroughly enjoy museums and art galleries, and that I can carry on a legitimate conversation.

    On that note, I love listening to soundtracks of musicals while at the gym! Chicago's soundtrack is pretty high up there, along with Mamma Mia.Oh, and obviously Legally Blonde, the musical. I mean, they're catchy, you can skip the slower ones, and they're generally less obviously sexually exploitative of women. I mean, I know gender stereotypes are in there, but, well, they really are so catchy.

  8. Contemporary Christian music for me all the way. I have 3 different playlists. Warm up, the actual workout and cool down and I change the speed of the music for each. It's the music I love and it makes the workout much more enjoyable.

    I have thought serveral times about trying to find something from the hip hop section but I just can't justify giving my money to support that vulgarity. Plus I think if my husband found out he'd either kill me or have a heart attack. He LOATHES it. Seems like the more you buy it you are saying give us more. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know.

  9. Body Pump is terrible at getting me to like songs I would normally disown — Fall Out Boy are the most shameful. I blame the mix of adrenaline and the strong, driving beat. I had a similar reaction to Avril Lavigne when played in class.

    Sadly, I'm too poor for an mp3 player right now, but if I had one I'd likely spend more time devising workout playlists than actually working out.

  10. Watching and Weighting

    Oh Charlotte i have SHOCKING tracks on my ipod workout playlist – I am EMBARRASSED to say that I know ALL the words (What the heck are 'apple bottomed jeans' anyways?! The 'boots with the fur', I get…)I too fear I am a hoochie trapped in a feminist's body…..these tracks make me workout harder, faster and conveniently frequently contain the words 'harder' and 'faster'…just in an enitrely different context…..hmmmm…..I may need some sort of therapeutic input….

  11. may I come visit and go to HIPHOP class with you?

    I love rap/hiphop (clean versions these days at home) but BEYOND lack rhythm so Im still hesitant to venture into a class.

    Not even out of embarrassment (20% that :)) but that Id just stand there lost and it wouldnt even be that much fun!

    with you? Id GIGGLE the entire time (giggling can be some good core work to they say :))

    THANK YOU FOR THE LINK.

    Im off to chicago today and, for those of you on twitter, we are @realdealgirls.com

    here's hoping we can shake things up—even just a little bit.

  12. I'm a fan of music, but as a writer, I like songs that I can understand when listening to them which pretty much eliminates almost every song in the genre; not every song, but the vast majority. There are a few exceptions that make their way on the playlist, some older than others. Don't hate me for it, but "Lose Yourself" by Eminem starts off the workout playlist because it has that serious beat, sort of slow at first to really get going. That is followed up by "Andy You're A Star" by The Killers; again, it starts off slow and builds. That's about all the warm-up in the world, so we ramp up to some faster songs — examples like Fastball's "The Way" and Red Hot Chili Pepper's "Californication." Then it builds with "Yeah" by Usher and "Kryptonite" by Three Doors Down. And it pretty much goes like that for a while, faster, slower, faster, slower — Men at Work ("Overkill") mixed with Sheryl Crow ("All I Wanna Do") and Counting Crows ("Mr. Jones") — until a cool down period of slower songs the likes of "Where'd You Go" by Fort Minor and the Ryan Adams version of "Wonderwall."

    To be quite honest, I've spent a lot of time building that playlist and tweaking it for one main reason, okay two: 1) I hate to exercise and getting into the music while I'm doing it helps me forget that I'm exercising, and 2) The high and low tides of music help me sustain a rhythm that won't cause a massive side cramp from breathing in and out exactly the same for a sustained period of time. Anyone who has experienced that stabbing pain knows what I'm talking about, and this playlist helps me avoid that stitch.

    So, I guess that makes me a music and lyrics junkie, but it has to be good. And while profanity in general doesn't bother me (I'm not offended easily), the lyrics have to be good (read: intelligent), otherwise I'm changing the station.

  13. I also listen to music by Pitbull, Lady Gaga, Flo Rida, etc., especially when I work out. I have to admit that I also listen to and know most of the lyrics to their songs so I'm fully aware of how sexist they are… but I still listen. while I definitely recognize the disconnect between liking these songs and my values as a feminist, I guess I just don't take them seriously… But I do recognize that lots of young high school kids definitely DO take them seriously and take their cues about how to behave from these songs and if I had kids of any age in my house, I would NOT play these songs within their earshot. But as a married 25 year old, I feel I'm above their influence so I figure that if I get motivated to workout by listen to them, it's okay.

  14. I wish I could say I care about lyrics, but I just don't. I don't even listen to lyrics before I buy songs … I solely listen for workout sustaining beats. I will say, though, that I've been shocked more than once when I've actually paid attention to what I'm hearing. They work for me, though, so I'm going to keep (selfishly conveniently, maybe?) pleading ignorance.

  15. I have the same conflict! Because I DO listen to lyrics.

    Two things that make it easier: I don't mind filthy lyrics, as long as it's not the misogynistic women-as-objects-to-use-and-abuse stuff. So explicit songs from a neutral or female perspective are fine for me–some people are into casual sex and I don't really have any judgments about that.

    The other thing that makes it easier is with very few exceptions, I don't like hip-hop. I like MELODY, not just talking to a beat. And I have no desire to support "artists" who glorify murder, rape, and domestic violence. (Not that all hip hop is like that! But it seems like the worst offenders are often from the genre).

    I actually wish people would STOP BUYING these offensive albums even at the cost of having to search harder for workout tunes. But then I also wish people would stop seeing movies that demean women or buying women's magazines that glorify anorexia and teach self-hatred. The culture won't change until we refuse to support it with our $$$.

    But I know the chances are slim of that ever happening.

  16. I'm a combination music and lyrics girl. I need the beat to get me through it but I also need the lyrics to motivate me.

    I can't listen to the stuff you write about because of the lyrics. I like to be able to sing along in some way and as soon as I start thinking about the lyrics, I get mad.

    I try find things that are not so wrong but still have a good beat. Probably the reason I go for rock over hip hop. Hip hop generally (to me) seems so anti-women it's scary.

  17. I'm with Crabby… If it offends you, don't support it with your dollars.

    I can workout to Top 100 Hiphop if it's in class (although most classes don't go with the profane stuff), but no way am I putting that mess into my brain with an iPod.

    I listen to Manafest, Paradox, Lacrae, TobyMac…. these are all Christian Hip Hop by definition, but would appeal to most audiences that simply want a good HipHop without misogyny or sex acts.

    There is good music out there that has the beat you crave and doesn't offend. Isn't building our bodies all about building ourselves, mind and body? Just search for it, no matter what your music preference is… don't settle for the crap some of these artists are dishing out.

  18. Lethological Gourmet

    I run into this all the time as a fitness instructor. I'll put on a CD (and most of these CDs are supposedly clean because they're bought from fitness music companies), and then there's something that makes me go "they said what what?!"

    For spinning, I choose my own music, and sometimes the clean version isn't available on iTunes. So I have tracks which drop the F-bomb and have explicit lyrics. Nobody's ever commented on it. But I think it's definitely true that the music with a more driving beat tends to have more explicit language.

  19. I listen to a lot of that music too, and it's a beat/lyrics thing for me. That said "You Give Love (a Bad Name)" by Bon Jovi gets my pace up too. The problem is that I can only listen to that song so many times.

  20. I think I mostly just listen to the beat. I do get upset when songs need to swear, particularly in the chorus. I was singing along to a song with my 4 year old neice and I had to make up some new words on the spot. Thank goodness she didn't notice it didn't rhyme.

    Some songs, once I figure out what the lyrics are, make me dislike the song. But usually by then I'm fairly sick of it anyway. I definately don't watch the videos.

  21. Also, I wanted to ad that I don't actually *buy* these songs. I download them (pirate them) from Limewire. So… while I might be giving these songs and the musicians that make them my moral support by loading their tracks into my iPod, I'm not actually giving them monetary support.

  22. I'm a super nerd. I listen to NPR, which is also the jazz station. I workout at home, so usually put the DVD on the computer and turn on the news if it's morning, Jeopardy or something similar if it is evening. Sometimes I tape Judge Judy to watch while running on the treadmill. I know. I'm 26, but I could pass for 60! I don't even own a music playing device (though my toddler does have a Hello Kitty CD player).

  23. I have issues too…this is why for me, a lot of my workout is techno and psytrance dance mutic…less lyrics but lots of beat and funky bounding rhythm to keep me moving.
    I get sucked in every once in a while by a song despite it's lyrics but a lot of times I get too wierded out by lyrics. I'm not huge into hiphop so I can escape a lot of it…but every time I flick to Much Music or listen to mainstream music I end up feeling like an old pride 🙂

    …and yet, the old song Smack My Bitch Up by Prodigy is one of my favorite running tunes…I can't win. Sometimes you just have to shake it and ignore the words 🙂

  24. I mean prude not pride…

  25. A song definitely has to have the right sound for me to listen to it. Lyrics are secondary. That being said, I only purchase music, buy concert tickets and merch (read: "financially endorse") from artists I genuinely respect and wish to encourage. No flavours of the month for me. Besides they get enough play on radio stations and televisions. I like to see an artist grow, present a work, an album. Songs are songs and flavours of the month (especially ones that degrade women and upset me) don't deserve any of my hard earned pennies.

  26. I'll agree with FitMama to an extent. I only listen to music when I'm out of the house. I hate, hate, hate to exercise, but do it anyway. And the best way I've found to do it at home is an easy equation:

    (Something I Hate To Do) + (Something I Love To Do) = Answer

    In this case, the formula looks like this:

    (Exercise) + (Video Games) = Decent Workout

    So, I've combined riding the stationary bike with my Xbox 360 and I can put in 20 miles on the bike in one hour, while being distracted enough that I don't think about the fact that I'm exercising.

    Good times.

  27. I followed the link, its a great site! Can't wait to visit it everyday like I do yours!

    I always listen to the lyrics, and many times find myself ashamed of what I am listening to…

  28. I'm a prude. And I'm old.

    I'm with Crabby on this one – if you pay for this type of music, they will keep producing it, and the lyrics will keep getting worse.

    I'm curious about something, Charlotte. Do you let your kids listen to this music?

  29. Jody - Fit at 51

    Well, at my age, I like the 70's & 80's classic rock & not much a fan of hip hop & such. Not saying I don't like some current music but not this stuff. My iPod has all classic stuff on it…. I know, I am old but hey, the songs I listen to are timeless & most of the musicians can actually sing & play without a sound studio… OK, now I really sound old!!! 🙂

    Honestly, a lot of that other music does offend me… and I hate how many of the singers grab their crotch all the time. Can someone tell me why!

  30. (The family-friendly version)
    Jody – One word: Piercings

    Sorry. :^D

  31. I can't believe what I'm reading with the comments today. IT'S ONLY MUSIC!!!!! If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
    Would it be the same if people stop reading US Weekly and People magazines?!?! Or stopped watching Entertainment Tonite or TMZ?? Would the paparazzi stop following around celebrities and get a real job? Musicians make music they love and are passionite about that craft.
    When my son is in the car, I use my brains and usually go with lite-FM. When he's outta the car, the good stuff comes out.

  32. Totally agree with you Natesmum! I was just at the grocery store today and there was one of those People/US/Trash mags with a young girl on the cover and in huge letters "How I lost 20 pounds". This girl is not an actress or musician- just a rich socialite who lost 20 pounds and THAT gets her on the cover of a magazine. Nice message.

    In order of destruction of self-image I would definitely rate the trash mags higher (not saying this music isn't bad, it is) . But, how will my daughter look at herself when the trash mags call Miley Cyrus (Hannah Montana) fat? (because she is actually growing hips-wow)

  33. I can listen to anything as long as I'm in a CLASS, because I honestly don't even hear the lyrics – I'm too busy thinking about the combination, watching the instructor and trying not to hit (or get hit by) the person next to me.

    Outside a class (or if I inadvertently tune in to the lyrics DURING a class), listening to music like that sends me into a screaming rage. Seriously. When my youngest sister was about 7, her gymnastics class was learning a routine to Britney's "Hit Me Baby, One More Time."

    Screaming. Rage.

    Wanna good laugh? My favorite running music (when I'm not watching TV shows on the iPod) is Hannah Montana. Seriously. It's quick, it's happy, it's upbeat – and TOTALLY INOFFENSIVE. Bubble-gum pop at its finest. (Ok, maybe not "finest." But palatable. ;D)

  34. i am both a music and a lyrics person (depending). however, the songs i love the most are lyrically musical. that is, you don't NEED words as the music just speaks to you anyway.

    those types of songs aren't good to work out to at all, of course, but y'know.

    i also like songs with good lyrics because i so sing along to my ipod in the car. i'm one of those people.

  35. Susan Helene Gottfried

    I actually avoid the classes that are heavy on hip hop. I can't stand the subject matter, can't stand the repetitive beat, can't stand the culture. Listening to a lot of it makes me want to kill someone. Literally. It gives me homicidal tendencies.

    I'm a metal girl. Not the death metal, but the stuff that used to be speed and thrash. It's much more palatable. And I don't want to hurt anyone. In fact, it mellows me out.

  36. Thx Joshua! 🙂

  37. I have a terrible memory, but I can remember anything set to music. I attended a musical a few years ago that I know my mother bought me the record for when I was little – I mean age 3-4 little. Before I came in for the play, I couldn't tell you the name of a character, a song, the plot, anything. It had been over 25 years. But when they started singing the songs, I knew the lyrics in my head. They came right back to me – it was spooky.

    So I will sometimes enjoy hip-hop in public when I am blissfully ignorant of what they are saying. But if I can understand them, it will never leave me.

    When Mambo #5 came out, it was so catchy, I really struggled with whether or not to listen to it. All I could understand was "A little bit of (insert girl's name here)" but I knew it couldn't be good. I was grateful when they turned it into an advertising jingle and I could listen to my heart's content.

    I'm with crabby. They only keep making it because enough people keep buying it. I know that changing the industry by refusing to purchase is like trying to dam the ocean with a box of legos, but I choose not to buy it on principle.

  38. Ugh…I can't listen to that Flo Rida song. I've been asked to play it in Spin class but I refuse. I work my butt off to find music that is acceptable to play in class. Just as some people *need* recent top 40 to feel like they had a good work out, some students will leave your class and never return if you're playing offensive music. There is great high energy music out there that does not have offensive lyrics. There isn't a lot of it and I sometimes play drinking songs or songs about the Donner Party or the like but I try to keep it clean. Most of my students are women and I owe them the best that I can deliver. With 11000 songs in my iTunes, I can deliver a pretty darn good list without it getting too nasty. Part of why we're in the gym is for encouragement and uplift! I strive to deliver a total package: an challenging work out, high energy music, and a respectful, fun atmosphere.

  39. PS: I agree with Jay. I liked an Avril Lavigne song I heard in Spin class (outside Spin I can't stand her). Then I realized the song was about telling some guy to break up with his girlfriend and it ruined the song for me. We have to remember that not all of our students at 22-year-olds. azusmom isn't the only one who doesn't want to hear this stuff in class. The best thing is to mix up the genres and hope for the best.

  40. I don't like rap, so that eliminates almost every stripper/prostitute/wannabe porn star songs. The two types of music I can't stand are rap/hip-hop and country. I listen to the lyrics as much as the beat. My workout music is mostly techno, such as Daft punk (no remixes of hip-hop please!!).

    My mp3 is full of a wide variety of music: alternative or indie rock (the killers, Our Lady Peace, metric), lots of punk/emo (have you heard of Finch?) and various styles of metal (Nightwish, Eluvite, Blind Gardian). Some Québec bands or signers like Jean Leloup, les colocs and Les Cowboys fringants (and not Celine Dion, thank you very much). A couple of metrosexual metal bands from japan; I have no idea what they say but it sounds good. And Xavier Rudd! Not sure in what style to place him but it's my feel-good music.

    So if I listen to the lyrics of these songs, which I do, I'm stuck somewhere between knights in shinning armour that kill dragons and trade with elves (most power metal I listen to), or how death is great because live is horrible and/or pointless and we are all tortured souls that can't be saved (punk/emo – such as Mama from My chemical romance). Which raises a whole other set of issues that are not only about women.

    Then I listen to Xavier Rudd and Angelzoom and mellow out.

  41. Emma Giles Powell

    Music is an incredibly powerful force in a youth's life, impossible to overestimate, and nearly all parents underestimate its hold. I remember that feeling, which I cannot identify with whatsoever now, but I remember like some vague dream, what that felt like. It's never, "Just the beat." Be very careful. We just finished a parenting class by a noted CES speaker including this very topic that drove it home for me in a visceral conscious way. Send me an email, and I'll link you to his book.
    BTW, I ran into a group, a huge group, of fundamental girls with their calico dresses and all their long hair braided back in those hair things (that I won!) They're very pretty, and I felt almost immodest with all my cropped locks!

  42. Emma Giles Powell

    And a PS BTW: in response to your original question of what's on my MP3 player. Audiobooks. Only. Sounds boring, but they suck me in! I found myself WANTING to go work out or clean house because I am antsy to find out what happens next and can put my ears in.

  43. I am a lurker (love your blog BTW) that *had* to make a comment on this post. I have always loved explicit lyrics for my workout music – I call it "Booty Music". What can I say, it motivates me. A lot. Shoot, I can remember getting in trouble at the tender age of 12 for having the songs "Dirty Mess" and "Erotic City" in my cassette collection. LOL

    On the flip side, I do love more *a-hem* benign lyrics and if I had to pick my all-time fave bands, not a single one of my exercise playlist artists would make the list …

  44. I have that problem too! Tate even sings some songs that he really shouldn't, but I just can't listen to kids music for my own sanity! I don't let him hear the 2 live crew that is on my ipod, but he sings come on get higher like no almost 5 year old should! Am I a bad mom? I remember singing Tiffany and Madonna way too young… Oh well, just passing the torch!

  45. I *highly* recommend this documentary to any non-misogynist hip-hop lover. You can find it on youtube/google videos:

    http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/hiphop/

    One thing he doesn't get into are all the great indy hip hop artists out there. But he does have some music and interviews with Dead Prez, Talib Kweli and Nas.

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